Talent is a dime a dozen, so what actually sets you apart? Being a good hang. In this bonus episode it's just Cait and Jenna, no guest, inside thoughts fully becoming outside thoughts. We get into why being someone people want in the room beats raw talent, why we bump a book to the top of our TBR the second we love the author, and the trad vs indie question we've both stopped stressing about. Be kind, be easy to work with, and people will want to read your shit.