The AI Conversation in Publishing Has Gone Off the Rails
April 21, 2026
AI in publishing is getting loud—and not always helpful.
Everyone has an opinion about AI right now, especially in the publishing and writing world. But instead of thoughtful conversations, what we’re seeing is a lot of noise, fear-based takes, and people rushing to pick a side.
In this episode, we’re not here to give a definitive answer on AI. We’re here to talk about what’s actually bothering us about the conversation itself—the fearmongering, the “AI police,” and the pressure being put on writers in an already difficult industry.
We waited to speak on this for a reason. We listened first. And now we’re sharing what feels off, what feels overblown, and where we think the focus should actually be.
In This Episode
Why the AI conversation in publishing feels reactive instead of productive
The rise of fear-based takes and why they’re not helping writers
Where we personally draw the line with AI (workflow vs creativity)
The pressure and anxiety AI is adding to authors—especially debut authors
Why “AI isn’t going away” is the wrong starting point for the conversation
What writers should actually focus on right now instead of spiraling
AI isn’t the problem—the way people are talking about it is.
For writers navigating AI right now: If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the noise around AI, you’re not alone. This episode is meant to ground the conversation back in reality and remind you of what actually matters:
Your voice, your process, and the work itself.
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Cait (00:00)
even if you're screaming about it on your podcast or on Instagram or trying to fear monger, it's not going away. And this is a real conversation that we should be pushing back on things that we don't believe in. We don't believe that it should be used to create art. I don't want to read a book that's written by AI. And I probably wouldn't because it's pretty shitty.
Jenna G Judith (00:00)
Night!
Cait (00:28)
I just want to say I have a lot of FOMO because WFWA is in Alexandria this week and all of our friends are hanging out without us. ⁓
The WFWA retreats are amazing. you guys listening aren't members, definitely look into it when a retreat comes up because they're such a blast. And the ladies are awesome. And clearly you make friendships that last a lifetime.
So ⁓ cheers to you guys, we miss you.
Jenna G Judith (00:53)
Cheers!
Cait (00:56)
We wish we were there.
Jenna G Judith (00:58)
there's one tiny disclaimer on this, this episode. ⁓ We are approaching a very controversial topic. And with controversy comes opinions. And we always want to ensure that
your opinion is welcome here. This is just mine and Cait's opinions. And they may be. Yes, a couple glasses of wine induced. ⁓ So if we say things that you're like, yo, that's freaking wrong. Let's not do cancel culture. Let's not do that today. Let's just be understanding and kind and know that we're part of a community that's literally on
Cait (01:21)
drink a couple glasses of wine.
Yeah.
Jenna G Judith (01:45)
the leading edge of some of these topics. And we are the pioneers figuring this shit out as we go.
Cait (01:54)
Literally.
I feel like the reason why we haven't come out with anything about it for a while now is because we were sitting and watching everyone else and we were trying to figure out how we felt. Or I'm still trying to figure it out. I'm watching it unfold
obviously, we don't think you authors should be using AI Obviously, let me just start off with that. We're not looking here trying to figure out if we think everybody should be using it or not. It's more just, how do we approach this, I don't know, going forward?
Jenna G Judith (02:28)
Mm-hmm. And AI is a topic that is not going to go away. It's a part of our lives. It's kind of like, I like to equate it to pre-pandemic, post-pandemic. It's the very similar feeling of pre-AI, post-AI in the creative space. And it does. And I know I use it a lot in my actual job. ⁓
Cait (02:47)
Yeah, it feels like a before and after.
Mm-hmm.
Jenna G Judith (02:57)
I am one of the people that have
opportunity to work with AI constantly, every single day. I know its capabilities, I know the scary sides of it, I also know the really awesome wonderful sides of it. I know my opinion is based off of that. My opinion is not grounded in anyone else's experience with it. Like, that's all I think.
Cait (03:22)
Yeah.
Jenna G Judith (03:26)
am worried about because a I don't want to say the wrong thing, b I don't want to like encourage anyone to use it in inappropriate ways, but c I also don't want to not use it like
Cait (03:41)
or pretend it doesn't exist because even if you're screaming about it on your podcast or on Instagram or trying to fear monger, it's not going away. And this is a real conversation that we should be pushing back on things that we don't believe in. We don't believe that it should be used to create art. I don't want to read a book that's written by AI. And I probably wouldn't because it's pretty shitty.
Jenna G Judith (03:43)
Night!
Cait (04:07)
capabilities at the moment for that stuff anyway.
Jenna G Judith (04:10)
And it's always going to be fast. And it's gonna be the easy button. If we wanted easy buttons more in our lives, we wouldn't be writers. So I don't know why we have to feel like... Like we're not like the Knights Templar, like hunting down people that use AI. Like, screw that. I don't wanna be the AI police.
Cait (04:30)
Yeah, it's just a weird thing dude.
No.
Jenna G Judith (04:35)
not my thing. All I want to do is write my book, use AI to do the stupid shit I don't want to do anymore, so I can focus on the fun creative things. That's it.
Cait (04:43)
Exactly.
Like, I
want my AI to do the shit that I don't want to do. You know what I mean? Like, I want it to write my slide decks at work.
Jenna G Judith (04:52)
Yes!
Cait (04:56)
And if I go into my job the next day and some boomer boss is like, hey, did you use AI for this presentation? I'll be like, fuck yeah, I did, Linda, because this shit doesn't matter, Linda. This presentation here doesn't matter. You know what matters? The human experience and art.
in preserving that for history. Thank you, Linda. So I'm not gonna be up at 10 o'clock at night making that presentation. I want my AI to make that presentation for me. Because 10 o'clock's my writing time.
That's my freaking time for myself to do the things that I want to do and that I enjoy doing. I do not need AI to write my scene where I'm on a rooftop in Barcelona describing the beauty of the sunset over the city. I want to write that because I went through that and I want to get that out on a page. That is what I live for to do. it? Why would I want it to do it for me? That's the fun part.
Jenna G Judith (05:28)
Exactly!
And
if you do want it to do it for you, I don't think you're in the right space.
Cait (05:56)
No, because you know what? You're right. Like people publish books for all different fucking reasons,
If you read something that you're like, this sounds like a middle-aged guy using AI to write his vanity book, give it your one-star review and move on. You don't have to ruin his life. You don't have to scream about it on Instagram. You move on, because it's going to happen.
Jenna G Judith (06:18)
especially because everyone says, well, it's like an inappropriate use of AI for creative purposes. And we should like totally cancel them and like they shouldn't make any money off of it. Newsflash, there's a billion other things that people are money off of that is completely inappropriate too.
all I want to do is encourage you guys to make your own opinions about it.
Yes, there's pros. Yes, there's cons. Yes, it like absolutely destroys the environment if like we don't actually get ahead of it and find more sustainable ways to fuel the energy required for these data warehouses. Yes, 100 % yes. Am I going to solve that right now? Actually, give me a bottle of wine and I probably could in about five minutes. But like it's not it's like saying
Cait (07:07)
you
Jenna G Judith (07:13)
Well, that's, I'm gonna condemn that, but I'm also gonna go drive my diesel truck 20 miles down the road when I could have just, I don't know, carpooled with someone. Like, I don't, it's not the same thing, but it's also the same conversation that no one is really connecting the dots with.
Cait (07:30)
Yeah, and I think it should just be used for your workflow, obviously. Like, make your life easier, make your work easier. Don't make your work and create too easy. That's not fun.
And personally, my book, I had been writing it for a decade. I talk about that a lot on this podcast. That's not new news. when I started writing it, didn't know it was going to be a book, went chapter by chapter, and had different ideas. like, OK, let me add this. It became a thesis for my MFA.
And I had no plans on publishing it immediately. Like I knew it was going to take me a very long time to finish. I wanted to get it perfect, get it just right. So I tinkered with it for so long And then my husband and I started talking a lot about AI because he's in music. And the conversation and AI and music has been a lot around a lot more
and a lot longer than the conversation about writing an AI has been. So he was talking about it within his profession and his creativity way before we were talking about it on
I was so scared. So I was like, now I have to actually finish it now. And that's what pushed me over the finish line. Otherwise, I probably just would have like had it as like a fun little side thing that I was doing for a long time. And now it became the main thing.
And I had to constantly update the technology in the book all the time that now it's at a point where the joke in the book is that she loses her job to AI.
you know, like she loses her job to a chat bot because that's the reality of like the world we're living in. She's a travel agent, in customer service, answering emails and telephone calls. So I was like, I need to joke about the, where we are today, now, whereas when I started, that was not even like a thought in my head.
Jenna G Judith (09:19)
No, AI's been in my workplace for the last two years and we're constantly updating our AI policy ⁓ to be inclusive of all of the poor uses of it. Poor judgment. We're putting parameters on it, but also we're not backing down from it.
But when you start to shut down people because of technology like this, I just want people to listen a little bit more. Because I think your book, especially Cait, it wasn't about reacting at the end of the day. It wasn't about like, this is cool, I need to post it.
It was all about sitting and listening and actually being in the moment with things and then forming judgments.
Cait (10:16)
literally the main theme of the book. yeah, it is, it is about hearing the conversation first. I never want to be the first one to speak in any argument. And I think honestly, a lot of people who were the first people to speak on this, it's not aging well. So I
Jenna G Judith (10:18)
Yes! Can you tell I read your book?
Yeah.
Cait (10:44)
sit back and listen for a while. so like, I mean, my honestly, like now when I think of fear with it, it's more my fear around like kind of people losing critical thinking skills at the end of the day,
it does the stupid things for me that free up my time to be creative.
Jenna G Judith (11:01)
And I know this sounds really stupid now that we're putting an entire episode about AI out there. there's going to be very loud voices in the room and there's going to be ones that are
thinking through all of the scenarios that you aren't. And I want us to put the smartest people in that room, not the loudest people in those rooms, because there are safety concerns, there are environmental concerns, a lot of ethical concerns.
Like if you don't agree with me using it to Google, not even Google, that's like synonymous with search now, isn't it funny? Just to ask a robot what's it like to find a body frozen in
negative 20 degree weather after it's been dead for four hours. Give me some examples that I can cite in order to write that better. If you don't want to use it for that, that's fine. Like, I see it as just a very fast way for me to do some research and plan my life and analyze some data points and ⁓ move on with my life and go have fun and go be creative.
Cait (12:07)
I think probably we all aren't going to have jobs soon anyway, so we'll all just sit at home and create all the time.
Jenna G Judith (12:15)
And if you're not a creative person, I feel really bad for you then. Like, what are you gonna do when we don't have jobs?
Cait (12:24)
The thing about too, when I talk about it with my husband, the music industry is way more jacked about it because there's so many technical facets to what they do that a lot of their job is gonna be made easier. And so we might get better music or we might get, and that has nothing to do with music in the, AI in the music itself, but it's just gonna free up a lot of creativity for people who would spend hours on this one mindless,
maybe
engineering aspect of creating the music. it's just gonna, yeah, like it's gonna free up so much brain space for some of these people, like that the conversation in that industry is so different than the publishing industry. is like.
Jenna G Judith (12:59)
so they can go be a better producer.
that's oh okay because and like in my job it's a different it's all about like what are the ethics behind it let's use it safely let's use it ethically let's be very transparent about how we're using it like we tell our clients all the time like we record every single one of our meetings with AI and it takes notes
Cait (13:14)
Yeah.
Jenna G Judith (13:34)
And that's so we can like be more engaged in the conversation with them. And I think that's
I hope we can get to that conversation in the publishing world because that's way more fun for us.
Cait (13:50)
Yeah, it's so, I think what you said about just being, like a lot of people make it seem to be like very black and white, where it's like the black and white part is like,
it's not as black and white as just like don't write AI books. Like we know that, but the conversation is like, it's a little bit more deeper about like how is this eventually going to be used in the industry, even on a trad publishing level, even on an indie publishing level, like the actual industry of like making a book, what's gonna be okay and not okay to you guys?
Is it okay to use grammarly lean to edit your manuscript? that okay? It's so nuanced that I think just getting on and screaming about it and ruining people's lives over something you can't even prove is not where you should Not helpful.
Jenna G Judith (14:47)
We're so much more
evolved than that. I would rather have us spending our energy talking about indie authors that are doing really cool, innovative things than...
Cait (14:58)
Innovations that work too,
I do, wish it was more of a conversation that it seems to be. ⁓
Jenna G Judith (15:06)
Well, the conversation right now is very loud and it's destructive. it's no one's really listening. They're just throwing opinions out there.
Cait (15:15)
Yeah, and like accusations and stuff and it's just like, we're supposed to be a community. I think that the way to have a loud voice in the room if you are somebody like me who's against using it
Jenna G Judith (15:18)
Ugh.
Cait (15:27)
That's like you're not like your Instagram reel about you screaming about it is not going to make AI go away. There's too much money to be made in it. It's already here. It's not going anywhere. Yeah, it's here. It's happening. So like, how do we have more productive conversations about what this is going to look like in our industry in general? So.
Jenna G Judith (15:37)
It's been here for a while.
It took us a full glass of wine to get to that point.
Cait (15:52)
⁓
But it's like how do we say that out loud? Like how do we get there? And this is why we're venting.
Jenna G Judith (16:00)
Yes, this is I will say I apologize for the venting that occurred prior to this moment in time. Because I have been holding it in. I have been being I have told Cait so many times, I just want to post and rant about it. And you keep saying, Nope, nope, not the space for it.
Cait (16:20)
No,
but it's like we also can't have a podcast and a platform in the industry and as writers where we ignore the elephant in the room. Like I just also didn't feel comfortable with that, but I also have been just waiting to, I don't know, to talk about it out loud. That seems like a way.
Jenna G Judith (16:43)
Is it bad?
Is it bad that like, I'm borderline scared?
I don't want the sound bites to be taken out of context. I don't want it to be a black and white decision. I don't want people to say that I don't understand them or anything. You could take all of those reactions and replace the topic with any other hot button issue right now.
Cait (17:10)
Yeah, I just think that I'm just not.
Jenna G Judith (17:13)
This is like a yet
another one.
Cait (17:15)
I'm not a radical person. I'm a sit and listen and speak when I'm feel confident enough to speak about something and join the conversation in a productive way. But like the radicalism around this is making me uncomfortable.
Jenna G Judith (17:33)
good way of putting it. I think that that's what I'm scared of. Like, I-
Cait (17:37)
I'm the one with a fucking book coming out in a month and you know fucking terrifying I think a lot of my anxiety about this is literally because like there's just so much controversy in about writers right now and writing and I'm just like my god like finally after all this time you put something into the world and like debut authors like this month or next month and are in this time like
You get it. You know how I'm feeling right now because like to have work out in the world right now is so fucking scary. And it sucks. You guys are making it suck so bad for us. We just want to be happy. I've been working so hard. I want to be happy. Like I want to be excited about this. But like it's scary to open up.
scary to open up yourself to reviews and criticism in general. And I thought I had a handle on that. And then all this shit started. And I'm just like, now you could just be canceled without any type of proof or whatever it is. And so, yeah. And that's why indie publishing does feel better for me at the moment than going with a trad publisher because
Jenna G Judith (18:40)
proof.
Cait (18:50)
If you go with a trad publisher right now and you have accusations fly at you, then it is like, then you're done. Then you're done. Then you're done. Now I'm just like, you know what? This is like me on my terms. I'm doing it as ethically and as honestly as I want to be, and I feel confident in the product that I am currently putting out. But man, is it scary for us.
Jenna G Judith (19:13)
This is why you are my co-host because you put things very eloquently when all I want to do is scream at people and be like, what the fuck are you doing?
Cait (19:21)
I didn't want scream for a little
while. It doesn't mean I don't want to scream. I did want to scream. And honestly, because the screaming to me, the screaming, you scream, the more insecurities that you're showing to me.
You know, like, it's like you're just scared that somebody's gonna put something out that's better than yours and that's gonna end up being AI or something like you think it's just gonna like take over and I honestly that is just not my opinion. I think that AI is actually going to free up creativity for us. Not because we're using it for our creativity because we're using it for all the dumb shit that takes up our time that we don't want to do and that keeps us from being creative.
Jenna G Judith (20:04)
But this isn't some crusade. You don't have to bend the masses on their knees and be like, yes, they're opinion on AI is far superior than anything I could think of. No, let's not do that. Let's all just all be in a room and think about how can we do this better? How can we adapt better? Like think about the days when indie publishing were very, very niche
Cait (20:22)
Mm-hmm.
Jenna G Judith (20:29)
And now it's so much more accessible because we all talked about it more. We talked about it, we encouraged one another, we tried new things. Maybe we should do that.
Cait (20:33)
Yeah.
You know what,
Yes, I think it's gonna help a lot of indie authors be more successful because even like, me and Jenna, do a podcast we started two businesses. We started a publishing company. We now have a bank account. What? We have trademarks. We have LLC. So all of those things
Jenna G Judith (20:52)
Yeah.
Cait (21:04)
starting one LLC and all the things that we want to do in scale, it would have cost me $500, a lawyer, and probably like a couple weeks of work to do. I use AI and I was, I literally did it in 15 minutes for like $100 because it just told me what to do. So like.
Thank you, because now like me and Jenna are able to like do a lot of the things.
so if you're an indie author, do not let the fear mongering scare you. It will help your business grow if you are able to just do these things without stressing about it and quickly and financially
making better financial decisions, like all of the things that you are scared to do to be indie, it'll help you do those quicker. that's the type of industry conversation I wanna be having. And not so much about the AI is gonna write books in the future, we're all just gonna be reading computer books, like we won't, because.
Jenna G Judith (22:02)
If you're not watching on video, can't see my copious amounts of eye rolls happening today.
Cait (22:08)
There's just always going to be authors out there that you'll know and you'll like them and you'll follow them and you'll read their books and hopefully it's Mine talks a lot about social media and it talks a lot about
Jenna G Judith (22:19)
duh, you're all gonna read Cait's book. ⁓
Cait (22:27)
what your brain does when you become successful in these things and how fucking addicting it can be and then the things that make your brain quiet and the things that you enjoy doing and like how do we live in this age and also be creators and like that is definitely a huge theme in the book for sure.
Is AI going to drink my wine for me? No, I want
Jenna G Judith (22:49)
No.
Okay, so this is our policy, Cait This is our policy. Anyone that is in our community, you are allowed to have differing opinions about AI. But if you use it to write your own book solely, probably not the space for you, you can get out now. Everyone else, you're more than welcome. And I hope you accept us in return.
Cait (23:07)
You
Jenna G Judith (23:12)
Because yes, this entire conversation was fueled by a lovely French rosé.
Cait (23:16)
Ooh, I'm gonna go get more
Jenna G Judith (23:18)
Hahaha!
I'm like borderline need like a beverage cooler in this office to really round it out.
Cait (23:26)
The other thing that AI can't do for me.
Why do I want AI to take away the experience, and this happened to me a lot writing this book, where I write something that I think is fucking comedy gold.
Jenna G Judith (23:43)
I know where you're going this is and I love it.
Cait (23:45)
And I run up to my husband and I'm like, listen to this bit of dialogue I just wrote. And he's like,
Yeah, yeah, that's, it's, it's good. That's good. And I'm like, you didn't even laugh. He's like, he's like, No, no, it's funny. Like, I think I just like need to read the whole scene. And I'm like, No, no, no, no, you like this is so funny. That deserved a bigger laugh. You don't even get it. Forget it. You don't get it. And then I go, and I delete the whole thing at 3am. And I probably cry about it. And then I think I suck.
Jenna G Judith (23:53)
Me.
No AI can't do that for you, but also please never delete the camel scene in any phase of this book.
Cait (24:21)
and I'm literally talking
about the camel scene.
I was like, John, listen to this line. I called the camel a sand giraffe I am the funniest person who's ever existed. AI could never, AI could never name a camel a sand giraffe okay?
Jenna G Judith (24:40)
Nope, but it did make a reference to Beyoncé's internet and I'm like...
Cait (24:43)
But, you could never name a camel a sand giraffe So don't take that away from me. Do not accuse me of AI because that shit is all this.
Jenna G Judith (24:44)
You're not wrong.
Cait was pointing to her entire physical being, if you are not watching on video.
Cait (25:00)
So that is this genius, even though my husband didn't think it was that funny when I told him. And I just wanted to like, when he actually read my book, I wish I was just sitting over his shoulder, just like waiting for him to laugh at everything. I just wanna, I wanna, I wanna like get the satisfaction. Why don't we ever get that in our books when we come up with those strokes of genius?
Jenna G Judith (25:12)
Really? You wanted that?
⁓ so it's kind of like
when you go to a movie and you hear people laugh or cry or I don't know, and awe. We don't get that as writers.
Cait (25:32)
No,
it sucks. I need that validation.
Jenna G Judith (25:35)
Can we
have AI do that? Totally joking.
Cait (25:38)
Even with the hard letters, I'm like,
did you get to did you get to the spaghet? Did you, am I funny? Do you think I'm funny? It was so funny.
Jenna G Judith (25:45)
Right, we're right.
I think you're funny. To the point where I'm making an entire, like, during your launch week, I am on our website, we'll be having sticker packets you can buy that are related to Cait's book, one of which will be a sand giraffe.
Cait (25:50)
Thank you. Thanks.
did have one sticker idea. One quote. At least we think it's moonshine.
Jenna G Judith (26:09)
Okay.
Okay, yes.
Cait (26:12)
My
favorite lines, I'm talking about my book and that's silly, but ⁓ it's also one of my favorite lines ⁓ is, at least we think it's moonshine. And I didn't even, I'm sorry, you know what, I didn't write that, that was said in real life.
Jenna G Judith (26:23)
Well...
AI cannot take away the human connection.
Cait (26:29)
Never.
Jenna G Judith (26:32)
No. all in all, just remember folks, that when you listen to our podcast, we are real people because AI and robots could not make the shit up that comes out of our mouths.
because half of it is just us talking shit.
Cait (26:51)
Yep.
Jenna G Judith (26:51)
And
so let's round out this episode, Cait, with things we wish AI could do for us.
Cait (26:59)
You
Jenna G Judith (27:00)
you
I'm gonna go first. Okay.
Cait (27:01)
Okay, go ahead.
Jenna G Judith (27:03)
wish AI could tell me when it was safe approach a change of plans with my toddlers.
Cait (27:12)
you
Jenna G Judith (27:13)
I wish it like there was some data behind this and it could help me out with that.
Cait (27:16)
I wish AI could ask my boss for a raise for me.
Jenna G Judith (27:21)
and like be the mediator. Yeah. I really wish AI was around to when I was in high school to call in sick for me and act like my mother.
Cait (27:24)
Mm-hmm.
Ooh.
Ooh. I wish AI could watch Blippi for me every day.
Jenna G Judith (27:40)
I AI could keep track of how many snacks I have in my house and alert me to when the levels are getting low.
Cait (27:48)
it
Jenna G Judith (27:50)
Probably. I could train it to do that. I'll just ask one of my developers at work.
Cait (27:55)
What I don't want AI to do.
Jenna G Judith (27:57)
Yes, now what do we not want AI to do?
Cait (28:01)
AI is not going to drink my wine. said that. ⁓ AI definitely isn't going to travel for me. It's not going to see the world for me. It's not going to meet new people for me.
Jenna G Judith (28:03)
Mm-hmm.
Cait (28:16)
It's not gonna go to concerts for me. It's not gonna perform for me like it's I don't know There's so many things. It's not gonna do you guys
I've always, I've wanted to do an experiment for so long where we have like a bunch of our writer friends respond to like a prompt.
that would be the control, right? The prompt would be the control. So everybody has the same prompt. We just have a bunch of people write off this prompt a page, 250, 300 words or something. And then we have AI write to the prompt and have people try to guess because I just think people would pick the human one every time that it was human. You know what I mean? Because...
AI writes such stupid shit. It'll write like, it'll write like, and one tear rolled down her cheek. And it's like all the things that like, are the cliches that we hate, because that's what it's trained on. It's trained on all of the tropes and cliches and like all the things that'll be like, and she held her last breath. She didn't know she was holding or something, you know, like, it's like all those things that we like, make fun of as readers. That's like what it uses. Like, that's what it gets jacked for.
Jenna G Judith (29:03)
GASP
The cliches.
Cait (29:26)
That's what it thinks the human experience is.
Jenna G Judith (29:29)
So, our final CTA here today. If you've made it this far, congratulations. You get a sticker that says, I beat AI today. ⁓ Because AI can't really improve our attention spans. But if you did make it this far, ⁓ yeah, can it? We'll ask AI if it can improve our attention span. And then plant a tree after. Okay.
Cait (29:37)
You
I would like it to do that though.
Jenna G Judith (29:58)
If you've made it this far, congratulations. I want you to raise your hand or comment on a post or message us if you would love to be part of this AI experiment, because this would be brilliant and we'll just call it the AI Margarita Manuscripts. ⁓
Cait (30:16)
You
Jenna G Judith (30:18)
Margarita manuscripts. And we have to tell AI it has to act like, we will give it a persona. We'll say it's like a 45 year old, ⁓ let me talk to your manager, haircut Karen, who's had a full bottle of Rose, and may or may not be in ASICs and in mom jeans and not have it be ironic.
Cait (30:31)
Hahaha
Jenna G Judith (30:47)
So that will be our ARI persona and we'll name her.
Cait (30:50)
Linda because I was using my fake boomer boss.
Jenna G Judith (30:51)
Linda. Yeah, okay.
Yes. So if you I know we're not like ones for homework because you. ⁓ But if you want to participate in some AI homework, let's do it.
this is literally taking form in this episode. So there may be different parameters when we do launch it to the public.
Cait (31:11)
Yeah.
Jenna G Judith (31:12)
I'm allowed a disclaimer.
Cait (31:13)
We guys
still love us, but I feel like actually being in the middle ground right now is probably where most people are, like us. You know you don't want to use it in your writing. You know you're not personally going to use it. But you also know it's fucking here, and how do we use it well effectively, and how does it actually help us do things like in our normal lives? ⁓
Jenna G Judith (31:33)
Question mark?
Yes. Who
put the question mark at the end of the teleprompter? You know he'll read anything that's off of the teleprompter.
